What ever happened to real Black women in the music industry who talked about real stuff?
I'm so tired of these fakes like Rhianna and Beyonce. I truly honestly think that people hype them up because they are light-skinned and Beyonce shakes her ass to sell records. Where are all the real females like Alicia Keys, Erkayh Badu, Lauryn Hill, Jill Scott, India Arie? They actually are real Black women who I can relate to and they are more talented and have better lyrics than Beyonce and RhiRhi. Honestly? Beyonce sucks, sorry. I've never been a fan.I never liked her in Destiny Child either because that was grimy what she did to those other girls. Plus I heard that Matthew Knowles used to make the other girls tan in the group so Beyonce can look lighter.She's just a plain looking light skinned chick who can sing some notes and shake her butt. Rhianna is just a wannabe model trying to sing when she can't. She can't sing. The soul singers of the 60s and 70s would blow her skinny butt away. I don't see what the big deal is. I find it funny that a lot of these light skinned Black women can breeze easily through the music industry while it hard for the darker chicks or the chicks with natural hair and more African features to do so. Thank goodness for A.Keys and J.Hud for making real music, being humble, and not having two identities to be successful. Sorry Beyonce's new album stinks worse than baby diapers. I guess one man's garbage is another ones gold. Same thing in Acting. They pick the same boring plain looking LIGHT actress(Halle Berry) to play a Black role in every movie because she's light. Halle Berry can't act that well and she's nothing special in looks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXEE7Pi6iQ India Arie-Video a great song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mVEGfH4s5g Beyonce-Single Ladies-fake and stupid song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuDE9vRZvg0 Beyonce-Diva- a stupid and egotistical song. Bob b I don't hate light skinned people. I mentioned Jill Scott, Alicia Keys, and Erykah Babu as my favorite singers and they are all light I love Heather!!! I also like these British soul singers like Amy Winehouse, Adele, Duffy, and Estelle. They are killing it. Dathip-Thanx for the link, I wish the Fugees were back together again. Faith- I'm saying if Beyonce was dark no one would be holding her on a pedastal. I repeat no one. The problem is that dark skinned women in the industry are getting crizticed for not looking like her. Like Estelle and Jasmine Sullivan, I looked on some of the gossip websites and I see a lot of people calling her ugly just because she's dark. It's funny, Keisha Cole is a plain looking light skin chick and dudes are sweating her like shes sexy and she's not. The lighter you are in the industry the more status you are given that's a fact. All of the Black actresses are lighting their skin and stuff. It makes me mad when I look at the TV there are less women who look like me and more women of my race who look white. the official anti-christ-Black men aren't judged as harshly when it comes to skin color. There are tons are dark skinned male singers/Rappers like Usher, Lil Wayne, T-pain, The Dream who have tons of females idolizing them.
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- I agree with you, but I don't know. A lot of these new girls can't even hold a note, but they can dance so I guess that's what makes them "multi-talented". I think Heather Headley and Chrisete Michele are talented also, but they don't get respect either. Edit: "Bob", if she disliked light skinned people, why would she list Alicia Keyes as one of the talented people.
- well thats not a real question because your asking why beyonce and rihanna sing. they sing cuz they enjoy it stop with the run on questions
- Wow, why do you hate light skinned people so much? There are examples of dumb people who shouldn't be rich and famous in every skin color. It has to do with what the radio plays, most people don't want to listen to real music, they like stupid songs like "Single Ladies" (one of the most annoying songs I have ever heard), but that applies to all music genres not just R&B. Edit: Since when were Jill Scott or Erkayh light skinned? It has nothing to do with being light skin or dark skinned, look at Meagan Good, she is dark skinned and can't act worth crap , yet she is still in movies? Why because she is hott. You even said it yourself you are just angry that nobody on tv looks like you. Hell, in that case I should be angry all the time. Stop getting bent out of shape over mainstream media, it is not exactly the place where they have good values. They are very shallow.
- it just sounds like you have issues with light skinned women
- I don't like to listen to Beyonce I just like to look. Jill Scott is extremely talented, but she does completely different music than Bey. There's more of a market for Bey's music than there is Jill.
- You are so right my friend this is a real black woman singing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUrJdf4PbEk&feature=channel_page GOD BLESSâ„
- I'm sorry but people wouldn't tear Beyonce down if she wasn't this big a star. Also just because she was lead singer of Destiny Child wasn't her fault that her father fired the other 2 girls. Beyonce dances, so what, is that worse than Halle Berry getting boned and winning an Oscar for it? Is Beyonce having affairs exploited, appearing in rap videos half naked, and sleeping with different celebrities that we know of? So what she is light skin, people don't have to keep praising dark skin people to make them feel good. Like many people here, crying about "Why don't people like dark skin?" when it's more of an issue with blacks themselves and not other races. Yes Alicia Keys has good music, Jennifer Hudson too, but maybe everyone isn't into slow ballads all the time. Many people like Beyonce and Rihanna's catchy music and many mimic Beyonce's dancing, you know like they use to with Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson. I wish people would stop beating this woman down for no reason. And Rihanna is young, many like Christina Aguilera, Pink went though the identity crisis moment when they first entered the business. Notice the change with Christina Aguilera? Edit: And those gossip sites have to do with how famous celebrities are? I bet many of those people dissing dark skin black entertainers are black themselves. That whole colorism issue comes from many black people even dark skin black people. How would you know if black celebrities are lightening their skin? Can't some one say that about Gabrielle Union? Or Iman? They both look lighter on camera, no different than Beyonce or Rihanna. I really don't think skin color is an entertainment issue opposed to people of the common world who make it an issue. And I don't care where these thumbs down came from but many of these people yapping right now know Beyonce isn't this disgrace of a person let alone black person as people make her out to be.
- Its because to white america, theyre marketable It all comes down to dollar signs. Alicia Keys is VERY real and VERY talented but she aint marketable as a pop singer unless they dumb her down and make her shake her @ss more because that's what sells in america. We live in a society that's ANTI-INTELECTUAL. Whenever someone has somethin important to say nobody listens because ignorant people dont wanna hear it...they hate thinkin for themselves. as for the acting ting....i sense just a lil bit of bitterness lol. Halle is actually a pretty good actor, i aint gonna lie, and she IS beautiful. But you're right that only light actresses get any screentime, for the same reason. Society is biased towards a eurocentric school of thought and that affects perception of beauty as well. Thats's why we've never had a darkskinned miss america. Thats why we have almost NO darkskinned beauty queens at all. Thats why we study european history up the @ss but dont know sh*t about africa at all. i'm just gonna put out there that i think Chrisette Michelle has a better voice than Beyoncé
- Broaden your scope of music sister and don't rely on the radio to play the music you want to hear. The typical R&B radio station plays top 40 R&B and with a sprinkling of Classic Soul. Listen to online radio stations. I have a good variety on live.365.com.. Check out artists like Ledisi, Liz Wright and Jasmine Sullivan among others. Vivian Green has some nice stuff and so does Floetry. Sister they are out there. The are just not in heavy rotation so you have to look.
- I agree with you. Sadly, looks play a lot in everything. I grew up on these sistas here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJWpNkcyx8E&feature=related edit: Raddy W (below) Macy Gray CANNOT sing. edit: @ Belle, you brought up Gladys Knight, but obviously she's talking about today's society. In Gladys' days, everything was about talent, not so much image.
- and how come youre not talking about how fake Chris Brown is and how he can't sing? if he was dark and ugly nobody would be worshipping him either EDIT: Im just saying you should be asking "what happened to the real black people in the music industry?". besides so far its mostly females who criticize other females who look better than them. if any guy hates on beyonce its cause he wishes he could score with her and knows he cant. I know you said the women get criticized more than the men but most of the people who criticize the women happen to be women. kind of like what youre doing with singers like beyonce and rihanna...
- I agree. I adore lauryn hill and jill scott. And I also like Macy Gray.
- So what about Mya and Christina Millian there lightskin and havent made it as big as Beyonce and Rihanna, has it ever occured to you that the MAJORITY of people listen to that type of music which is more of a pop/R&B type?? as apposed to just R&B like Alicia keys and Indie Arie.. seriously.. your so jellous and i bet you, you bleach your skin. And stop hating on light skin chicks, i am BROWN skinned in between light and dark and i never had any problems going through life seriously.. and i dont know why so many dark skin girls are so inseucre hating on people lighter then them.. get over it!!
- first of all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. second of all, the people that listen to beyonce are either young or just like to look. as sad as it is, her career is based on sex. i'm dark skinned, but i have to say that you don't have to be dark skinned to be talented. there are some light skinned women who can sing; i used to love to listen to lynette hawkins from the hawkins family sing and she's light skinned. blu cantrell is also. there are also dark skinned females that are beautiful and can sing very well, you just have to go outside of the box to find them. they are not on the radio on heavy rotation like the rest, sometimes you have to look deeper. for instance, ledisi, she's a great singer, she's dark, but she's not on heavy heavy rotation. you have to go outside to hear her. i've never heard people calling jasmine sullivan ugly because she's dark. erykah badu isn't light. aren't you going against your point a bit when you mention amy winehouse? she's white. men in general aren't criticized as harshly as women. you know why? because it's a man's world. that's the truth; james brown said it. there are plenty of dark skinned females that made it. look at my favorite singer, gladys knight. she was dark skinned with big lips. even though she had big lips she still sang her butt off and kept strutting her stuff, even if diana ross was considered better looking. patti labelle, even though i don't like her very much, she kept doing her thing too. you can use dark skinned as a hold back only a few times, but not all the time. sure, these were different times, but even then light skinned women were held on pedestals. skin color only matters through video. not through the music at all times. if you look beyond the skin color and just listen to the singing, things would get better. black people are the main ones that criticize skin color. that's probably our biggest problem. we care TOO MUCH about skin color. you can blame it on willie lynch if you want, and yes that was the start of it, but you don't HAVE to buy into it. edit @ choc1: yes i mentioned that, but she makes it seem like because of light skinned women dark skinned women can't do anything at all. i'm just saying that dark skinned women shouldn't let their skin color hold them back. just because we're not beautiful to the media doesn't mean we still can't progress and try. that was the point i was trying to make.
- ALOT of people call people ugly regardless of light skin darkskin white skin whatever u want to call it.. people say it out of jellousy, insecurity and just to hate.. seriously.. I honestly truly believe that the whole lightskin darkskin is a HUGE excuse on the black community on why they cant make something out of themselves, they hate on every succesfull black artist even if there half black, they hate on whether the fact someone has lighter skin then another, they hate on the fact someone has more "cacusian features" then another.. they hate and hate and are going nowhere with there lives.. they blame there problems on the white man.. and where are they? nowhere, still hating.. while other races are laughing in their faces at them.. Whether your light skin or dark skin your still BLACK and society still sees you as black.. I think people just need to learn to accept that and move on with there lives, there are more to black people then only one complexion, we are many shades of brown and its time we start embracing that instead of hating on eachother for what? skin color? i mean seriously.. there are bigger problems in this world then that. No one asks to be born a certain color, or born into a certain family or born into poverty, but it is what it is, we make the best out of what we HAVE and accept the things we CAN NOT CHANGE. Its a part of life, you got to work for what you want, wether your light skin or dark skin or brown skin, you have to work to get to where you want, hating wont get you ANYWHERE in life, neither will skin color.. even white people know that skin color wont get you anywhere.. there are MANY white people who are living in poverty or in trailors many white people who go through problems and hard times, but do they blame it on skin color? nope, they just work there but off and make something of themselvels which is why im 99 percent sure they are where they are today because of hard work and determination. Thumbs me down if you will but that is the truth! I am biracial (brown skinned) and I am where I am because of hardwork, I know skin color didnt get me here, I know that for a fact, my hardwork and determination got me in university. Getting a job did not come easily to me cause of my skin color, i got the job because of experience that i built from volunteer work. Life isnt easy you have to work for what you get. And if you blame all your problems on something you can not change, like the fact that your dark skinned or light skinned, how is that benfiitng YOUR life? how is that going to make you feel any better of yourself?? how is that going to get you to where you need to be?? its just creating more problems, more things to hate about and you will never be happy... seriously. THere is ALWAYS a first for everything, Halle berry didnt become famous for nothing, it was HARD work and she had to work twice as hard, did she blame it on the fact that she was half black, nope, she knows that society sees her as BLACK, I am mixed race and I know that society sees me as BLACK, and i know i have to work twice as hard as my white classmates to get to where I want to be. I could spend all my life wishing i was darkskinned or white but i dont, I couldnt care less even if i was pitch black or pasty white. I am proud and i know what i have to do to be succesfull and i think its time you start figuring that out and doign what you need to do to make someothing out of yourself. This lightskin vs darkskin is just rediculous and sounds insane to the outside world seriously your still BLACK get over it!! My mom is a darkskin black women and she didnt let that get in the way of owning her own buisness with my dad and being successfull, she worked hard and went to university and is now owning her own buisness, im sure if she blamed all her problems on the fact that she is darkskined she would of gotten no where because "there is no point in trying she is darkskinned" right? that is what people WANT you to believe so you dont succeed.
- Yea that's nice but Jill Scott and Erykah Badu aren't light skinned
- i know what you mean, i was listening to erykah badu on & on, was on the radio and straight after beyonce diva came on lmao but to be honest i think its because, in dreamgirls the part where jamie foxx was like the girls had to make sure they got themselves into the pop charts to sell, this is what singers like rhianna and beyonce are doing and your right i hate rhianna, after i saw the video for disturbia i actually got freaked out, and now she's gone all weird, personally i like beyonce but that song video phone goes against everything how she said she was so holy, church goer, good girl etc.. we need people like erykah badu to come back to show we don't need a weave to be beautiful http://artistdirect.com/nad/window/media/page/listen/0,,4916411,00.html not a youtube link sorryy
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